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Social Liberalism and the Tories

Posted by paul marshall at June 09. 2006
Ed Vaizey is a True Cameroon and a phoney Liberal. You only have to look at the way modern Tories talk about Social Liberalism. For modern Tories, a social Liberal is someone who is tolerant of different lifestyles. The term became current when Michael Portillo held sway and the Portillistas were trying to take on their authoritarian wing. With no sense of Liberal history, they did not even seem aware they were misusing the term.

More to the point "Liberal Tories" have no Liberal language to talk about helping the underprivileged, raising up the poor and empowering the disenfranchised. Whilst Liberals have a rich philosophical history of wrestling with positive and negative freedom, the Tories (and Vaizey) fall back into the paternalism of "compassionate conservatism." We do not need paternalists in the twenty first century any more than we need the Statism of the Labour party.

Social Liberalism and the Tories

Posted by Russell Eagling at June 12. 2006
I would be interested to see what a One-Nation Tory would say to the charge that "Liberal Tories have no Liberal language to talk about helping the underprivileged, raising up the poor and empowering the disenfranchised."

But then again - your point may well be that there don't seem to be any One Nation Tories left around these days.

Ms

Posted by jennifer moses at June 13. 2006
Dear Neal,

Thank you for writing your piece on Freedom. I think the language you use is provocative, but you raise
an important point. I agree that our society has become more acquisitive, more materialistic. However, I
think the reason that has happened isn't really about capitalism, and I think alternative mantras are very
dangerous.

You have made an interesting case for how our society has developed into the materialistic mess you perceive.
What I think is missing from this analysis is the feminist and sexual revolutions, which I believe are driving
a lot of what you are worried about, but also a lot of what is better about society today from some
mythical better, more communitarian past. The dramatic changes in the role of women, and how men and women
(and of course men/men and women/women) relate to each other have changed the structure of families and
of society dramatically. There is a library out there to address these issues, but I believe that part
of the decline in community spirit has to do with the radical change in women's roles, the decline of the
nuclear family, and the decline of religious community--all driven in part by these irreversible
revolutions. Can we really put this genie back in the bottle? I don't think so. I don't think we should
want to. The reality is, for economic and a host of other reasons, women are going to work, and so
the volunteer, religiously based workforce that created so much of the local community support we all crave
is now engaged in other activities. Bob Puttnam talks about this, and about the insidious role of televison
and computers, in disengaging social spirit. I don't think all these issues can be put down to capitalism.

Second, although the urge to shop certainly isn't inspiring, I think there are worse motivators. Not to be
glib, but I would rather that shopping was the opiate of the masses rather than religion. We can see from ceenturies of experience what happens when religion, or another utopian vision, becomes the driving force in a society. That leads to repression and violence. Although there are muggings for IPODs, I venture to say that a materialistic society is just too busy and too self-absorbed to go on a crusade. And personally, I think that is no bad thing.

All the best,

Jennifer

Re: Social Liberalism and the Tories

Posted by David Heigham at September 04. 2006

Dear Jennifer (and Neal),

The relaxation of the social constraints that prevented women from realizing so much of their potential is a long and deep-running change. The enabling conditions are that we became richer, and better educated. The process seems to take forever (I am 73 and my grandmother was elected by a Committee for the Representation of Women, and her elder sister took a degree, for Heaven's sake!) and is far from finished. The stress it creates is enormous, for women and in less degree for men. We need greater leisure and such harmless distractions as shopping (and sudoku, etc. etc.) to cope with it.

Gays and lesbians are going through a similar process.

But at the same time, and I fear that this is the basic fact Neal misses, we have been equally slowly breaking down the constraints which the social class you were born into used to place on people's development of their potential. That constaint was never as absolute as the constraint imposed by gender, but its slow removal is dissolving  the intellectual foundations of socialism; and has been doing so all my life. In modern Britain, the masses have almost melted away.

Most of my neighbours 30 or 40 years younger than me - from all backgrounds and many countries of origin - simply do not have the assumption that they are fixed in a social group. That is now a matter of choice, choice of how they choose to live.

I trust you both live to see these almost geological changes to their conclusion,

DAVID

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